JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Well, time is getting a bit tight for Prescott. I will be there, but ..... Will probably have body painted by end of May. Taking Post-War Minor to France for the first week of June - will get nothing done on car until 2nd week in June. Have loom 90% 'made' - laid cables for Flashers + Brake lights - not decided what they will look like etc yet (looking for inspiration at Beaulieu tomorrow) - middle of June should have body back on chassis + wired + seats fitted. Then need to repair + paint wings and bonnet + assemble. Need to source + fit all glass.

Still not managed to listen to what a 'proper' SV engine sounds like - might need some time to have another look at the engine 'clatter'.

I have all of the paperwork to get an age related registration plate but gather that I need an MOT first; then need to wait for DVLC to issue a registration - a bit tight!
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Sounds like your hands are full John - if you miss this year, then next year will also be third Saturday in July. Prescott already booked!

Have a good time at Beaulieu and say hello to Toby.
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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A sliding roof is nearly re-constructed.
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.. with a bit of boat-building technology
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and some metal guttering
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I have welded up the guide rails, just need to trial fit + work out how the sliding roof component will actually slide along the rails and clear the rear fixed roof section. Hope to get some Primer on the body soon. Anyone know whether Cellulose primer will 'stick' to Ash? or is the trick to mask-off all of the Ash Framing?
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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John,

This must have been a LOT of work - well done!

Is there a reason why you set a small angle between the front steel rails and the rear part of the roof?

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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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I am sure that somebody did tell me just to leave it as it was - could have saved a lot of time + £60 worth of Ash!

Been off-Piste a bit with the roof. A lot of those that I did manage to look at did have an inclined section between the gutter frame and the rear, fixed section of the roof; some just had a flat roof. I think that the incline allows the sliding roof, to slide up, and beyond the rear fixed roof. By my thinking, it allows the 'open' area to be bigger. I now need to decide whether to keep the fixed track straight from front to back (as photo), or have the front section (above gutter) horizontal, with the rear section inclined so that the sliding panel rides up the rear 'roof'. Anyone any suggestions?
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The second photo illustrates the next problem; the sliding roof must be quite 'thin' as it will need to pass above the highest point of the rear fixed roof.
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Those designers at Pytchley were obviously clever buggers. :D
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Mr + Mrs Pytchley might turn over in their ... if they are watching this. Whether the car has two drain holes visible (one fore, one aft), I think, suggests that the car has a 'flat' roof; if it has 1 it has the rear incline.
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Fantastic work, when my saloon was restored a lift out section was fitted instead of repairng the roof! One day I will come up with a solution to it as it is heavy and there's no room to store it in car once it's lifted out!
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Not so much a sliding roof - more a manhole cover. :D
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Here's my framing project for this weekend - replacing a rotten deck!

The 'Don't feed the bears' sign isn't entirely a joke - we are pestered with the things in the autumn - they come in and destroy our pear trees to get at the pears, and leave piles of bear-pear poo everywhere!

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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Managed to get the body and doors bare-metal primed and first coat of Primer/Filler on. Only took 2 hours to get the VW Green paint out of the spray gun - eldest son not too good and cleaning things up! looks like the Primer does 'stick' to Ash; will not matter too much as it will be covered by the Vinyl.

Anyone got plans/patterns/photos of the two floor support brackets?
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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managed to get the first coat of Oxford Blue onto the body and doors last night. I will have vinyl covering the sliding roof + surrounds. There are two alloy gutters, one for each side, and a front + rear alloy strip that fixes the vinyl fore and aft.

Should these alloy strips be painted body colour (Oxford Blue)? or should they be Black, or polished alloy?

Will be visiting the SU stand at Prescott, what needle/Jet should be in the SV Carb?
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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:D Hi You are making a very good job of your car
,Regarding the alloy strips I have the same car as you but without the sliding roof and my strips are painted oxford blue the same colour as the car,keep up the good work and keep the picture coming.
All the Best
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Thanks Colin - Oxford Blue it is then


Have managed to get 3 coats of Blue on (2.5 L) - ran out + had to phone for more

John
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Loking nice John - and great to meet you at Prescott over the weekend - if all too briefly.
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