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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:29 pm
by Jpallis001
I have put together a spreadsheet that list the spares that I have for sale along with an asking price. Not sure how to upload the spreadsheet (Ian, are able to upload it someway?), so if you are interested in any of the bits, eMail me (JPallis001@AOL.Com) and I will send you a copy of the list.

I have kept items as grouped in Peter's photos. Do not want to re-photo! Feel free to ask me for details/condition/history on any of the items.

I have some books that I will have to find before I list them.

John

Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:31 pm
by Ian Grace

Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:33 pm
by Ian Grace
John,

Could I put my name on thre electric wiper motor - lot 6? The McEvoy has one of these as fitted originally, but I'm not sure of the state it is in.

Thanks,

Ian

Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:50 pm
by Jpallis001
Will do

Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:54 pm
by Ian Grace
John,

Looking at your front road springs, the main leaves seems to be the top leaf:

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Also, the top clamp plates don't seem to have the facility to attach a shock absorber (but these plates can quickly be swapped).

If these springs are indeed the correct length for the Minor and they are Morris, then it's hard to understand what other vehicle they might be from!

The photo below shows two of my front road springs. The flat one is a Morris original (oval leaves) from my fabric saloon - the other (with the correct curve is a replacement spring (square leaevs) from my McEvoy. Both springs have their main leaves somewhere in the middle. I doubt whether this is important, but we seem to have two original springs here with very different leaf geometry. Could other forumists take a quick look at their springs to see if anyone has springs with the main leaf on the top?

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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:22 pm
by Jpallis001
Does this Part number help? It does not match the numbers that I can see in Harry Edwards's book? His book does show the main spring as being 'sandwiched'?
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:43 pm
by Ian Grace
Here's my original McEvoy spring from May 1933 - manufactured by William E. Cary Ltd. of Red Bank, Manchester and featuring their Unicorn logo. (The McEvoy chassis was laid down 22nd May 1933.)

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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:31 pm
by gubben
The leaf spring on may car (Sv2612) has the main spring in middle (e.g. third from top).
/Thomas

Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:55 pm
by Ian Grace
This has been nagging at me all day - then it came back to me. I have seen springs just like John's - on a Minor - before. On my old Semisports JN 570!

These were square-ended springs, but the leaf arrangement is identical to John's springs - even down to having just two spring clips instead of the standard four. The fact that we now have an original spring in captivity to the same design is fascinating. Are these springs from a later Morris - Morris 8 or an MG perhaps?

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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:22 pm
by plj
John's springs certainly look like M8 but I believe the 8 springs were longer, I recently bought some (allegedly) Minor springs but they don't seem to conform to anything although they do "look" Morris! I will try and get them out tomorrow and photograph and measure.

Philip

Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:28 pm
by gubben
This discussion is very interesting and learning for a beginner as myself. I first though that the front road springs of my SV were too flat. BUT after a lot of cleaning and some "exercise", like bending and jumping on the springs (funny and adventurous experiment for an old man), the spring now shows an impressive curve. It seems that years of dirt and rust (and lack of exercise) has made the springs to solidified in a certain load.
Could it be as simple as that???

Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:23 pm
by Jpallis001
I have today been informed that the Part Number shown on the front springs is a Morris 8 number, and that the rear spring with the large front eye/rubber insert is for an early Morris 8.