JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Jpallis001
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Starting to put the engine together. I have test fitted the crankshaft and have pumped oil through the oil way that feeds the front whitemetal bearing - everything looks OK - oil is finding its way right through the crank shaft but a lot of oil does get out of a small hole that is drilled into the oilway that feed the front bearing. I assume that this feeds oil into the timing chain/oil pump/distributor drive area. Is that how it should be? Does the concave side of the oil-splash washer face towards the block?
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Trevor Wilkinson
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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No,the concave side faces forward towards the front pulley.
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Thanks Trevor - somewhere I have seen a data sheet that tells me the distance from the gudgeon pin to the top of the piston, anyone know where that info is? Is there a right and wrong way to assemble the con-rods? {look to be symetrical} - anything else not to forget when assembling the engine?
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Nearly finished the Ash frame for the passengers side door but need to find out whether the lower part of the door skin should be 'staight' or whether there is a 'curve' in it {front to back} - any ideas? might it have the same curve as the top of the door? (see photo 2 that shows the section of the door skin that I have cut out along side of the Ash door-top section)
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Jpallis001
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Still working on too many fronts! - Just got the engine back again, a long story for another post. - All wheel bearings replaced; Brake shoes relined/refitted; brake cams re-bushed; 3 drums on - one bake-plate to remove/straighten; starter motor in bits - making new field post; dynamo in bits fitting new bearing+bushes - rebuilding terminal/resistor box; battery box made + fitted; battery cables made + ready; carb rebuilt (not confident about needle/damper combination; wheels ready to be fitted; brake cables ready to be fitted after brake shaft sorted + front pulley carrier made ..............>>>


Going to have a blitz on the Drivers door tomorrow (welding + start new frame) + hope to finish upholstering the seats on Thursday. Stripped down the front window frame (water ingress into the laminate {looks home done!} has spoilt the screen) Just sent off samples of the screen rubbers to Ian Harris to see if he has any - anyone able to identify these sections? do they look right?
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Thanks Ian - I have two headlamps. One has a holder for a single filament bulb, no sidelight hole in the relector and has a dippling solenoid. The other has a holder for a twin filament bulb and a hole for a side lamp {no bulb holder}.

Both glasses are just that, sheets of cut glass, not lenses? So I will need to find a reflector with sidelamp hole and two lenses.
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also any advice on paint to use on the dashboard - have you come across any 'crackled'/'speckled' matt black paint?
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Ian Grace
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Hi John,

You should be able to get mottled glass from any reputable glass supplier - the sort use in bathroom windows! They should be able to cut a couple of circles for you. The original SV headlamp glasses were cast/fluted, but the OHC cars' headlamps had a mottled/spattered texture, which is quite close to the bathroom window stuff. As for crackle finish paint, you can also pick this up in aerosols. You spray it on and wait - it crackles as it dries.
Jpallis001
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Sisters are really useful! - today we managed to complete the last seat cover. Just need to tension them + fix to frames. Will start on the door cards next. Can anyone point me towards a photo that shows what a 1933 door card + rear arm rest should look like? can anyone recommend any sheet material that works well as the base for the door cards?
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Toby
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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the glass for headlamps is called "stippolyte", you could even have it toughened if you wanted. By the way, could only find one door glass and no others, the doors a bit of a mess but glass looks ok. :D
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Original rear seat detail (2008 Morris Register Rally)
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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!933 interiors
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Jpallis001
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Thanks Peter - they are the ones I need. Will have to find a piece on maghogony now. Do you have a good photo of a basic 1933 Saloon dashboard?

John
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Old wardrobes etc....good source of mahogany!
A couple of 1933/34 dashboards.
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1934 Minor with later speedometer
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Jpallis001
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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Thanks again Peter - I have cut+thicknessed some mahogany this afternoon - I will follow the dash with gloveboxes design next weekend

John
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Re: JF 4238 1933 Minor Saloon

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The Sun shone so I let it have a look outside while I removed the paint and discovered a few more bits in need of repair.
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It looks the roof structure has been removed/modified at some stage. Anyone able to suggest what might have been done? How big is the opening roof on a Minor? Might the Vynl roof have replaced a sliding roof?
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