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minor colours

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:30 pm
by dixiedog
hello all,
does anyone have ici formulation on the standard colours on the '29 Minor? Or ppg, sikkens, etc.? i am looking specifically for the dark blue, but would like to see them all.

Re: minor colours

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:37 pm
by halbe
Hello Ray,

I don't know the right colours but would also like to know the name or number of the blue used in 1929 for VG2007.
Also where to get the right fabric and what it's called.

Regards
Halbe

Re: minor colours

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:52 pm
by Ian Grace
I believe that this has been researched deeply in the past. The original paint was supplied by Bripal (a contraction of British Paint & Laquer), who were taken over by ICI. ICI were contacted, but could not help with colour codes of any sort. The original colour name was Niagra Blue, but that doesn't help, I'm afraid. The same situation applies to the brown colour, and I think others have researched that, including Ken Martin. I can tell you that the blue colour is very dark - unlike many of the cars we see at our rallies today. In particular, the blue of by old tourer VF 6700 was definitely to light. I think the colour on John Nagle's saloon and on the ex-John Smith tourer is just about right, but this is only my subjective opinion.

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:37 pm
by Mike Stubbings
Write to HMG Paints,Riverside Works,Collyhurst Road,Manchester M40 7RU. They have a massive colour library.I think they hold records going back many years of car manufacturers colours and mixing formulas for UK. They will probably only answer serious enquiries. Worth a try. Good Luck, Mike

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:32 pm
by Ian Grace
Thanks Mike. It would be great if we could crack this issue. I'm sure the Bullnose Morris Club must have some data too, as the larger contemporary Morrises used the same paints. The '34 tourer pictured on the home page looks about the right colour to me.

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:58 pm
by Mike Stubbings
Hi Ian, Something has just come to mind. A few years back I remember going to the Sparkford Motor Museum and seeing a 1930 Oxford Six like the one I have. John Haynes kindly let me have a close look around it. I think I remember him saying it was original. If this was so it would probably be the blue of the time. Mine was originally the same blue, called Oxford blue, which I suppose makes sense. I believe the car is still in Sparkford Museum. I believe it was donated to the Museum by its elderly lady owner who had always been chauffer driven. Mike

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:58 pm
by Toby
Gideon Booth or Harry Edwards, I think, have bs No.s for some of the old colours. I recently read a letter in an old journal giving a BL equivalent to some, will try and dig out the issue if I have time!

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:20 am
by halbe
Hi Toby,

That would be great

Thanks

Halbe

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:06 am
by g4pyd
Hi All, Toby did you ever find the mag with the original colours :D

Colin

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:25 pm
by dixiedog
Oxford blue......would this be the same Oxford blue MG used on some of their cars? It was, as I recall, quite a dark, rich blue. If so, I should be able to get formulation for it from the MG fellows.

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:36 pm
by g4pyd
wow thanks i willtry the mg chaps many thanks Col :D

Re: minor colours

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:55 pm
by halbe
When you find the right colour, please let me know the colour numbers/name for my fabric saloon

Halbe